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Zitat von FlorianGee

True. Only the LCI xenons have the advanced selective beam feature. Pre-LCI could only automatically switch between high and low beams without being able to cut out other cars.

Got it.

This BMW video describes the High-Beam Assistant feature. At 0:40 seconds it shows that the lights can swivel "by a few degrees" to help avoid shining into the oncoming car. But what the video is describing doesn't appear to be as advanced as how I would understand the advanced Selective Beam feature. Do you think this video is describing the pre-LCI or after-LCI version of High-Beam Assistant?

Zitat von FlorianGee

You're on the right track
Read the description of the "Fernlichtassistent" and you should be "enlightened"

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I see what you did there...

So it looks like the name of the feature is the same ("Fernlichtassistent") but the description changed. In the 2010 Preisliste, it says:
Fernlichtassistent
automatisches Auf- und Abblenden

In 2014, the word "blendfrei" is added to the title:
Fernlichtassistent, blendfrei
Im Umfang Adaptiver LED-Scheinwerfer und Innovationspaket enthalten

And in 2015, "blendfrei" is removed from the title and is included in the description:
Fernlichtassistent
BMW Selective Beam (blendfreier Fernlichtassistent)
Im Umfang Adaptiver LED-Scheinwerfer und Innovationspaket enthalten

Presumably there is no actual difference between 2014 and 2015 - they would both be this more advanced version of the high beam assistant, because they're both the LCI model, I guess.

Guys, thanks for all the helpful info and opinions on this topic! And I'm sure much of it comes down to personal opinions or preferences at the end of the day.

I found a very long discussion on the topic of LED vs. Xenon brightness in a forum for the F30 here:
https://f30.bimmerpost.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1230507
I read through all the comments there, and although some people claimed that LED was brighter, more people seemed to think that Xenon was brighter (for the F30). But it was clear that it's very subjective. However, I reached the conclusion from the comments there, that the LEDs put out more light in the foreground, close to the car, compared to Xenon, but did a worse job of throwing light further away in the distance (with the highbeams) compared to Xenon. Several people made comments along those lines. I wonder if that is a reason why some people see LEDs as being brighter, because the area directly in front of the car is brighter. Of course, the F10 could be different to the F30 in this regard.

In any case, I agree with your comments above that LED vs. Xenon should not be a deciding factor when buying a used F10. Either way, the light output will be quite good, and the High Beam Assistant feature does a good job to prevent the light from shining into the eyes of the other drivers.

Zitat von AltinB1306

With the "selective Highbeam" adaptive Xenon headlights do exactly the same.
Pre LCI didn't have that feature, only LCI.

Zitat von Florian

As previous speakers have already said, the LCI has adaptive high beam assist. It masks the oncoming traffic and works like a charme, i am very impressed.

I'm intrigued about these two comments comparing LCI Xenons with pre-LCI Xenons. I assume that @AltinB1306 and @Florian are both referring to the same thing, in the two quotes above? I've never heard of "adaptive high beam assist" though. I have a copy of the BMW Preisliste (in German) for each year from 2010 to 2015, and they only refer to "Fernlichtassistent". The Preisliste for 2014/2015 (ie. LCI) does not mention anything special like "Adaptive Fernlichtassistent" or anything that sounds like something more advanced than regular Fernlichtassistent. I wonder if you can give more details about that?

I also found this video, where a guy gives a demo of adaptive headlights with highbeam assistant. It looks like he has Xenon lights. It's not clear what kind of BMW he has, though:

Okay great, thanks again guys, much appreciated!

Okay, so (with new bulbs) Xenons will be brighter - that's really good to know! Brightness at night is my main concern, so I think I'll go for a car with Xenons, and buy new bulbs for it, as you advised.

I guess a brand like Philips or Osram would be suitable? Or ss there any particular brand or type of bulb that is usually recommended to use for replacement?

Thank you for confirming this, FlorianGee!

Thanks, that's very helpful!

Both of you have stated that if I "get a good Xenon bulb" then it will be just as bright as the LED lights. Do you mean that the factory Xenon bulbs are not as bright as some aftermarket bulbs? So if I bought a car with Xenon lights, you would recommend that I replace them with aftermarket Xenon bulbs (eg. Osram or Philips?) to get some extra brightness from them?

Thanks! But Xenon headlights are also available with Kurvenlicht, right? So in that sense, there is no real difference? If I bought a car with Adaptives Xenon Kurvenlicht, it would be the same (in terms of brightness) as Adaptives LED Kurvenlicht?

Hallo Leute,

Ich hoffe es ist okay wenn ich schreibe auf Englisch...

Can someone tell me if there is a big difference in brightness, between LED-Scheinwerfer and Xenon-Scheinwerfer on the BMW F10? Particularly with the low-beam headlights, not the high-beam headlights.

I'm referring to the factory LED headlights which are available from 2014 models after the facelift, compared to the factory Xenon headlights (ie. not aftermarket solutions).

I understand that LED headlights are supposed to be brighter, but I'd like to know how much brighter? Like 10%, or 50%, or 100% (twice) as bright, for example?

I'm searching to buy a used F10. I have seen a 2014 model with Adaptive LED-Scheinwerfer, and also a 2013 model with Adaptive Xenon-Scheinwerfer, which is a little cheaper. So I want to know how much of a difference the LED headlights will make for driving at nighttime. How much more of the road will they illuminate with the low-beams?

Thanks!

Hallo Leute,

Ich hoffe es ist okay wenn ich schreibe auf Englisch...

I'm looking to buy a new (used) F10. I have a question regarding "Adaptives Kurvenlicht" and "Abbiegelicht".

Is it true that every F10 car which has "Adaptives Kurvenlicht" also includes "Abbiegelicht"? In other words, Abbiegelichten are always included with Adaptive Kurvenlichten?

According to the BMW Preisliste, which describes all of the special features, they should always be included together - as far as I understand it.

However, yesterday I was speaking with a car dealer, who was selling a 2014 BMW F10 with "Adaptiver LED-Scheinwerfer". The BMW Preisliste also states that Abbiegelichten are included with the LED Scheinwerfer. But the car dealer claimed that they are not included. He told me that a BMW will have either Abbiegelichten or Kurvenlichten, but not both. I think he must be mistaken, but I wanted to clarify this. Can anyone confirm it for me?

BTW: let me clarify what I mean by "Abbiegelichten" - it's the turning light that comes on when you are driving at slower speeds and you turn a sharp corner, and this light is aimed at nearly 90° to the direction of your car, as shown in this video at 0:07:

I'd also like to know, how I can determine if a BMW has Abbiegelichten. Are these lights inside the headlight housing of the car? Or are they somewhere else? What do they look like?

Thanks!